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doom 4 announced
Doom 4 Announced
Zips @ 12:18 pm pdt on 5/7/08 - pc fps
Production has recently started on Doom 4, according to id Software. In addition, the company is looking for a few good men to work on the sequel.
Production has begun on DOOM 4, the next journey into the legendary DOOM universe. We are expanding our internal team and are currently hiring to work on this highly anticipated title.[...]

We are looking for talented, ambitious and passionate individuals eager to join our accomplished team of developers working on the industry’s most innovative and anticipated games. For a complete listing of available positions, visit our id Careers page. Resumes can be submitted via email to jobs@idsoftware.com. All applicants must be authorized to work in the United States.
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comment #1
-:Nighthawk:-

1:20 pm pdt - 5/7/08
Sweet. If Doom 3 is anything to gauge by, hopefully sometime after Doom 4 is finished someone will make a game with it.

comment #2
PseudoKnight

1:42 pm pdt - 5/7/08
I feel for the devs... how do you make a sequel based on a game style that no appreciates anymore? There's no GOOD way to approach this.

comment #3
ALT+F4

2:04 pm pdt - 5/7/08
Edited by ALT+F4 @ 2:08 pm pdt on 5/7/08

Perhaps feature Hell as a horrifying consequence instead of just another mediocre level to slog through. (Hmm... I'm in Hell. Which way to the exit, please?")

ETA: Looking over id's Jobs Available list I see lots of Artists, Designers and Programmers but no WRITERS. Off to a flying stop already.

comment #4
Zom-B

2:28 pm pdt - 5/7/08
..Hell on Earth? Makes sense.

comment #5
magicalpoop

6:52 pm pdt - 5/7/08
Doom 3 was great, but it's a dinosaur now. Seriously, pistol, SMG, BFG, and a rocket launcher/etc. Various demons. Generic story. And half the time it was black as hell, you could not appreciate the graphics.

They should just make (yeah like said above) Hell on Earth, put in the Infantry/Marine thing. Sounds a lot like another game though (HALO) :)..

comment #6
Zips

Tin God - #csnation

7:05 pm pdt - 5/7/08
I think if they came out with a map pack for Doom 2 instead, I'd enjoy that a whole lot more.

I love the Doom series, don't get me wrong. I even enjoyed Doom 3, but if it's more of the same I just don't see it being that enjoyable.

comment #7
-:Nighthawk:-

9:30 pm pdt - 5/7/08
Personally, my most enjoyable campaign-mode FPS experience in the past several years wasn't single-player, but rather going through the original Halo in co-op with a buddy. Shared experiences are the fabric of society, and a shared FPS campaign with a good friend can be fantastic.

Even more, just goofing around and introducing your girl to gaming by being her guide through a level can be a lot more fun than expected. Protect her from the bosses, let her take out the little guys, lead her through the level so she's not hopelessly lost, and talk through it all... it's amazing how many opportunities for positive comments can come in an hour or two of a co-op FPS.

Really though, iD is typically somewhat obtuse when it comes to fun but absolutely genius about creating an environment. I loved the beginning of Doom 3 because honestly, in the dark hours of the night, it scared the hell out of me the first time I played it. That feeling brought me right back to my first time playing the original Doom all those years ago.

The problem is that the feeling wears off after a while, and the typical "escalation" scenario (where enemies and weapons progressively become more powerful but stay relatively in balance with each other) gameplay gets old. The audio logs were a good attempt to weave in a story and keep you in the environment, but even those became tiresome.

Ultimately we've evolved as gamers, where we were once happy to follow a progression of events and see how the story unfolds, but now we've tasted the freedom of doing things our way and anything less feels restrictive and tiring. A short experience like a movie can get away with us sitting along for the ride, but 15 hours later things are starting to get pretty old.

comment #8
Kotae

9:45 pm pdt - 5/7/08
^ Thank god I don't need my fiance around to guide me through a level. :v
I'd have to hit him if he tried to guide me. Ever. But hey, maybe you can make a gamer of a girl like that!

Anyways, I'm excited about Doom 4. Hopefully they make it sometihng great - but who knows what they will come up with. Doom 3 wasn't terrible, but there was some serious problems with.

Please, put the damn light on the gun. Take a tip from Quake 4. Please, dear god, please.

I enjoy games like Doom and Quake - they're fairly linear for shooters, and call me whatever you want, I enjoy that. While I do like Half-life 2 and other shooters that give you a wide range of things to do while playing the games (even though, I suppose, the story is fairly linear also), it's sometimes nice to just shoot the shit out of everything, have simple puzzles, and watch the story unfold in front of you. I grew up with the original Doom and Quake, and I still love playing the hell out of them.

comment #9
Zips

Tin God - #csnation

10:10 pm pdt - 5/7/08
^^ I'll be sure and help you out every chance I get. =P

Doom 3, for me, was only played late at night, alone, with the lights off and a pair of sound canceling headphones on. That really sucks you into the game and what would otherwise be a mundane experience, came out as rather frightening at parts.

I absolutely loved the Hell levels, because of how they looked. I wish there were more of them and that they were more varied. RoE offered a bit of this, but that expansion was by and large a huge disappointment. The ending was a major "f**k you". In the sense, there wasn't an ending. Just a voice speaking. The final battle was great though.

comment #10
Thortok2000

9:44 am pdt - 5/8/08
I wish my girl was that much of a gamer. With her, it'd be like "Okay, this is how you move forward...this is how you fire your gun..."

comment #11
-:Nighthawk:-

1:52 pm pdt - 5/8/08
Yes, I recognize that there are hardcore female gamers out there, and I don't mean to come off as an insulting jackass or anything like that.

However, I think even the female gamers among us recognize that, for the FPS genre in particular, they're a minority in the community. A lot of us guys don't put "must love and excel at FPS games" on our mental checklist of things to look for in a potential mate, thus my comments above. ;)

Once I had two of my female friends over and instead of the typical movie night routine, we busted out Halo 2 co-op and I got them to switch off. Things went fine until I surrendered my controller and both girls were playing together. By that point they'd gotten enough of a hang of the controllers to be able to move and shoot (despite dual-wielding confusing the hell outta them), but they didn't have that inherent (or developed... it's hard to say after this many years of gaming) sense of where they'd been before and where they should attempt to move to next.

Along with a few other experiences, this is the limited basis for my viewpoint, and I'm curious if others' experiences are largely similar or quite different.

As far as the light not being on the gun... I thought that was a major part of why the Doom 3 could be frightening. The sound effects helped send a chill down your spine, but the idea that you have to choose at any given moment between seeing your enemies or defending yourself created some panicky situations against foes that otherwise wouldn't be much cause for concern. Yes it was annoying as hell to have to whip out your flashlight all the time, but to me it felt like another case where they chose good environment over playability.

comment #12
ALT+F4

5:04 pm pdt - 5/8/08
M-O-O-N, that spells "light on the gun." Lawds yes. Some say the lack of it was a deliberate "game design element." If that's true it's the stupidest design element since level bosses. Time to lose those quaint but retarded anachronisms.

Oh, and while we're at it, maybe don't cheat the player by first not having a light on his weapon (a jag at the Marine mentality?) then having something attack him from someplace he just checked with the light.

Words cannot express how much I hated Doom 3.

comment #13
Kotae

8:22 pm pdt - 5/8/08
I grew up playing games, so my opinion on female gamers is kinda biased. Since I am female, and well.. I play games. But the majority of female "gamers" are casual games and jrpgs, in my experience - certainly not FPS. One of my friends woul have no clue what to do in an FPS or similar games, considering she plays, well.. wow and DDR. I was just lucky in having a dad that encouraged me to play what I did.

And you know, they could choose environment AND playability..maybe?

maybe..? just maybe? Or is that aiming too high. :(

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