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by rizzuh
sunday may 9th, 2004

A very stupid question for this mailbag: What kind of features would you add to a children's only version of Counter-Strike?

Surprisingly, not a single entry even mentioned Michael Jackson. Now, I had been planning on almost every entry mentioning the man-beast because you teenie-boppers just love to watch CourtTV. There wasn't even a mention of R. Kelly!

So if you're wondering why this mailbag isn't funny, please blame your peers for not referencing to popular culture enough.
from: Ma$ter Farkha
i would add baby bottles that squirt different types of juices. Milk from a bottle would be like a colt. Orange juice for an AK. and a mothers tit for an AWP =)
Fine sir, if I don't go as far to say that a breast is already a deadly weapon! Ha ha! I'm so lonely that I would do anything to see a naked woman! Ha ha ha!
from: mistafluffo
hmmmm... Probably a bully model or a pointy "sword", maybe even a complain voice command like "Enemy pinched me!" or something close to it =]
Cool ideas. The bully can go behind the fat model and flick his ears over and OVER UNTIL HE CAN'T HOLD HIMSELF BACK. AND THEN THE BULLY GETS FLOORED. YEAH, MARK! EAT IT YOU BITCH!!!!!
from: Evil_Penguin
I would add ponies you can ride and they would not have guns because guns are not for kids okay? The ponies would be able to nay and you would collect horseshoes and if you choose to be a Terrorist you can take the ponies from the Counter-Terrorists because that is mean and something a terrorist would do, I know it is theft and kids don't need to be stealing but they need to learn it from somewhere jeez.
A very involved idea, and I love it! Although I don't think kids need to learn how to steal from anyone. Theft pretty much comes with the territory of being a kid. How do you think I funded all the invisible friend tea parties?
from: TheRustedDoobie
That's a pretty dumb question....this game isn't for "kids", and their fragile little minds get warped when they play violent games such as Counter-Strike. The last thing I'd do is try to conform this game to a little kid's mind, and I'd try to make sure these little hellions don't waste their time with this game. However, people like me, aged 16 or older, have already wasted enough with reading, writing, etc. and have nothing better to do than kill each other over the internet. Keep C-S for "mature adults".
Keeping CS for "mature adults" is kind of a losing battle. It's not like the chat in public servers is utilized for an intelligent discussion on Michaelangelo's mannerism art movement. No, no; us in the CS community are far more appreciative of the surrealism movement!
from: Twilight
For weapons? Household objects would be best. Controllers, skateboards, console systems for melee. For range? Kitchen knives/forks, dishware(bowls hurt more but plates fly further), not to mention the classic - a jagged rock. For your accessories? Pinesol as a chemical weapon, maybe a bug bomb as a combination nerve agent/smoke screen. As for players? Brother, Sister, Pet would be the "ct" side, and Teacher, *insert person in some generic dinosaur costume*, and a gerbil for the t. (why a gerbil? because)

That way, its both entertaining AND informative.
Add an "Uncle that's not allowed to babysit" to the Terrorist team and we've got a hit on our hands!
from: Jett
A spoon.
Slim-fast would probably be a better idea. Man, kids these days are so fat! I drove by an elementary school recently and I couldn't even find a suitable target. What's a kidnapper to do?
from: GameHopper
Id replace the AWP with a rainbow colored AWP to let kids know early that AWPs are for fruits.
Are you saying that AWPers are golden? There's always a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow!

I am far too clever for this world of mortals.
from: Daniel Gould
Elmo with Rubber bands!!!!!

and a dildo, but don't tell the kids what it is :D
Don't you watch Dateline NBC? Kids know everything about sex! Stone Phillips says half of all forth graders will perform a Franklin Tickler for a Sacagawea dollar coin.
from: orphy
Carrot sticks. That's right. I'd like to bludgeon someone over the head with a giant carrot if I was a kid again.
Carrot sticks for the CTs, and string cheese for the Ts. I like it!

And instead of C4, we should have stuffing. You know, like Thanksgiving. I used to gag when I ate that stuff, and my guardians didn't give a damn. "EAT IT, IT IS HEALTHY FOR YOU," they yelled from their toothless mouths. That's when the Great Stuffing Riot of 94 began.
from: DogOfWar
Screw this question. lets talk about the goddamn awp "improvement". Valve is retarded.
You're so right!

The next page of the mailbag will consist entirely of feedback on the recent Steam update (http://csnation.totalgamingnetwork.com/viewnews.php/7116/) of CS and CS:CZ.

Read on, folks!

from: Warchicken
None. The entire idea of a kids-only version of Counter-Strike is intrinsically stupid and would be nigh on unplayable. You'd have to change the entire premise of the game - you couldn't have guns, deaths, blood, explosions, terrorism, dead hostages(or hostages at all)....what's the point? What would Counter-Strike be if it were kid friendly but a mere shadow of the game it once was - and the gameplay it once had?
I wouldn't call Steam a failure, but I would say that it does need some big improvements. However, the continual updates of Counter-Strike and now CS: Condition Zero prove that Steam has a useful purpose.

Also, I agree that the AWP was powerful, but many say that the delay is a little too long. I'm kind of on the fence since I'm no great AWPer, but there is a point in saying that the delay is invisible to the user. There should be a visual indication that the weapon is ready to fire, I agree.
from: fxpaintball
the colt pistole or 92S pistole with bust and semi.
Listen, CS 1.3 jumping isn't coming back. Just stop asking for it. Changing CS so radically again would piss off just as many people as CS 1.4 did.
from: Lord of Binks
1) "cartoony looking" models (ex. leet has huge glasses)
2) take out headshot icons
3) replace ____ "killed" ____ with "eliminated" in console
4) take out blood sprites
5) make "cartoony" flinching sounds such as "ow" or "ooh"
6) give the awp a "BOMMMmmm..." sound
7) swear/racist term filter perhaps?
8) make the guns smaller?

...cartoony stuff always appeals the younger audience ;)
So do you guys want a minimal amount of updates, or would you rather major gameplay elements like recoil and aim be messed with? I mean, we can't have it both ways!
from: Chris
I would include the much vaunted, dare I say it, YOGURT CANNON, you would be able to cover your opponent with disgusting 99% fat free yogurt that would be sure to make them scared enough of you to never confront you again, for fear of being fake peach-yogurted again. I would also be fun to have a blowgun. I always wanted one of these, it would have laughing gas in the dart and whil your target is uncontrollably laughing you pop him with your 20 dart Nerf BlastoDartoGun thing!
Haha, yeah the crosshair was way too big in the beginning. Luckily, Valve fixed that for the most part.

Was it necessary to change? No, probably not. But the crosshair should have scaled from the beginning. They should never needed to make this change. But Steam allows do-overs, dear sir.
from: vito
i would add some super soakers. hell yeah man those things kicked ass when i was 7.
Yeah, I'm surprised they added the updated models to the default CS:CZ mode. A bit of a turn-around.
from: hockeymanjames
hmm...the glock could just be carried over cuz its just a cap gun...a banana peel would be cool too. the bomb should be a pinata-and the cts get sticks and blindfolds instead of defuse kits.
Although the solid radar is a welcome addition, I'll probably be keeping the traditional radar for now. Glad that I have the choice, though!
from: DogOfWar
Oh, What do you think of the new 1.6 update, you ask? I cant think of anything else they ever could have done to lose more of the communi—wait, that was 1.4. Anyways, WHY ARE THEY UPDATING A GODDAMN 5 YEAR OLD GAME. I DONT WANT THEM. NOBODY WANTS THEM. PLEASE, JUST LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE.

Are they trying to kill an era of gaming to make us buy new games? Or are they really attempting to make counter-strike a better game, bringing it into the new millenium. Guess what, if i wanted slow, tactical, team combat, I would go play freaking Rainbow Six 3, and never think of counter-strike again. Counter-strike has one thing going for it, and thats its gameplay. Other than that its a laggy, ugly, easily hacked game with a TERRIBLE launching/distribuition platform.

Can Valve simply explain what they are trying to do? Shouldnt be that hard, but apparently valve is the devil incarnate.

Could valve leave us alone and give more attention to half-life 2, a game, that if there isnt a huge turn around, is doomed to crappydom? Of course they do, and it should make sense as they're updates screw up league play, which has been the lifeline throughout the years, not only for player growth, but also lan/tournament etc. fees i.e. money for valve. I can gaurantee they arent making much money off of a bargain aisle game that practically everyone on the face of the earth with a computer owns.

History would tell us that valve will take neither approach, they will simply create new patches whichout consulting any part of the community that has any reason to be suggesting improvements. Can valve actually learn from a mistake, will the devil be redeemed?!?!?.......probably not.
Woah there, no more children's CS entries!

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